Comments on: S3 E25 The Babes in the Woods have their names back

By: Diane

Diane — Mon, 30 Jun 2025 21:15:29 +0000

In reply to Richard. She never reported them as missing and lied about where they were. Not taken away by CPS at all.

By: Diane

Diane — Mon, 30 Jun 2025 21:09:33 +0000

In reply to Lou McKee. It’s pretty clear the mother did it and killed her two sons as it was much harder to find a man who would take on 3 kids back then. Also i think as her family’s refusal to discuss it was due to pressure they put on the mother to get rid of the boys or they would ostracize her. My own family was very much like that, pressuring me to get abortions even when i was married living 1,500 miles away. I chose my kids. Cut all contact with my family first 35 yrs until they all died off.

By: steph scovill

steph scovill — Thu, 27 Mar 2025 22:55:45 +0000

Is there a memorial for the boys? How sad, but it’s incredible how DNA finally solved the case. At least most of it. Eve, you do an incredible job. I’m so looking forward to your new book!

By: R. J. Dunnill

R. J. Dunnill — Sun, 13 Mar 2022 07:46:10 +0000

In reply to Richard. The circumstantial evidence is pretty damning.

By: Don Cracraft

Don Cracraft — Sat, 05 Mar 2022 20:28:16 +0000

Murderers don’t always have a reason, they just kill. Sometimes extreme grief will trigger someone to commit suicide. Others will do the unthinkable from deep depression from which they feel that it is better than having to try to live through it. This is such a sad story, however, at least the children are now complete and now have names and resting places. Such a sad, sad story…

By: Amir Nowtash

Amir Nowtash — Wed, 02 Mar 2022 17:48:45 +0000

Thank you Eve for the story. I’m just wondering why you left out a key fact in one of your last paragraphs? The one starting with “Police have always believed that the boys were killed by their mother, who covered them up with her coat. But Cindy doesn’t believe that for a second…”

Granted you were not the one who interviewed Cindy, but I’m wondering if nobody has ever asked her if she doesn’t believe their mother killed them, then how can she explain why Eileen never reported them missing?

Why would you not add this important point in that paragraph? If she’s been asked that question, I would love to know her answer, and if she wasn’t for some reason, I still think it’s a valid point to raise disproving her theory.

You didn’t think so?

By: PICKTHEVOUCHER

PICKTHEVOUCHER — Wed, 02 Mar 2022 10:07:07 +0000

great history,,,, sorry for the awful news about the children,,, but now your family is aware of the narrative, my my, there aren’t any words to explain your store but now you and the children may rest

By: Sharon

Sharon — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 21:33:52 +0000

In reply to Michelle F. I believe her name at death was Eileen Benedictine McAlpine, DOB August 18 1917. She passed on June 11 1996, 78 years old, at Mission, B.C. in the hospital extended care unit. Her husband, who predeceased her, on death certificate is listed as Cameron McAlpine.

By: PETER JENSEN

PETER JENSEN — Sun, 20 Feb 2022 23:41:23 +0000

– I remember my Mom talking about The Babes in the Woods growing up as kids in Vancouver in the 1950’s – 1960’s – Stanley Park was one of our favourite places to go on the weekends – the DNA discovery is amazing – what they can find out from basically nothing – never thought of it being used for the Babes in the Woods case – but it appears it is finally solved – end of another amazing very sad Vancouver mystery – Eve Lazarus is the best one to delve into this local history!

By: Richard

Richard — Sun, 20 Feb 2022 00:09:05 +0000

Thanks, Eve, and thanks to all who’ve commented.
There is a remaining story—who killed Derek and David. You write Eve that police believe it was their mother, the boys being found covered by her coat. But is that the only evidence they have? It’s not enough.

By: Sharon

Sharon — Sat, 19 Feb 2022 01:45:53 +0000

In the 50’s my parents would drive us to Stanley Park after they got off work and we would sit in the car or have a picnic and watch the sunset. They showed us where the last Indigenous person to live in Stanley Park lived in his cabin. We used to peek inside the dilapidated bldg. I don’t remember them telling us about the Babes in the Woods but I know they did. I am 72 now and I have thought about those little children my whole life. I wondered if ever in my lifetime they would be identified. Such a tragedy that there were so few resources for single mothers in crisis in those days. How desperate she must have been….and to have to live with that guilt for the next 50 years. My thoughts go out the the family. What a shock to have discovered this family secret.

Thanks Eve for putting my mind to rest about those little ones.

By: J

Fri, 18 Feb 2022 20:56:43 +0000

Frank. Really? Who murdered them is so clear now. Poverty makes folks do things out of their norm. Hopefully this will get some living with guilt to come forward as this event proves you can not hide from DNA no matter how old.
And just great work Eve! Bravo for keeping it in the minds of Vancouverites.

By: Michael McLintock

Michael McLintock — Fri, 18 Feb 2022 19:54:00 +0000

great reading Eve , as usual….nice to know more of that story….sad as it is.

By: Carol Gordon

Carol Gordon — Fri, 18 Feb 2022 18:28:45 +0000

What a discovery. I too remember when the Babes in the Woods were discovered and as a youngster simply could not comprehend that their mother or someone else murdered then buried the children in Stanley Park. Although I was aware that there were lots of “crazy” people in the news, the Babes in the Woods story would surface in my memory many times throughout the years so I’m elated by the discovery. Now if I could only learn why my uncle, Gerald Gordon, was murdered by the Vancouver Police while in custody.

By: Lou McKee

Lou McKee — Fri, 18 Feb 2022 18:27:28 +0000

Well Eve, it seems that your work is not over. I’ll be watching for an update to the unanswered questions. Ally certainly knew who to send it to. Thank you.

By: Brad Williams

Brad Williams — Fri, 18 Feb 2022 16:21:02 +0000

Very good Eve! There is finally some closure on this horrific story after so many years. Heard you on NW mid week, must be rewarding to spread the news after all this time.

By: Joy

Joy — Thu, 17 Feb 2022 17:35:06 +0000

In reply to kathryn murray. Detective Honeybourn, who was the cold case detective on the case in the 1990s, removed Derek and David's remains from public display at the museum, cremated the majority of the remains, and buried the boys at sea in a ceremony with a police chaplain.

By: Kathleen

Kathleen — Thu, 17 Feb 2022 04:35:18 +0000

Now I wish the police would identify Muriel Lindsay’s killer using DNA analysis. It’s been 25 years. Eva, beautiful Muriel and I were best buds our last year of high school. It was Jarvis Collegiate…Jesse Ketchum was the elementary school where she did grade 8, maybe 7.

By: Chris Hoffman

Chris Hoffman — Thu, 17 Feb 2022 01:36:25 +0000

In reply to Jean-Francois Dube. Tragic ! Sad ! Glad she knows finally what happened to her Uncles.

By: Shari

Shari — Wed, 16 Feb 2022 04:13:45 +0000

I read and greatly enjoyed your book about Vancouver cold cases and I’m glad you’ve had the chance to follow up with some closure on this one. While stories like this are dramatic and even sensational, it’s more important that each and every soul is given dignity and peace with the truth. Research and writing are also my passions, so I appreciate your hunt for the facts.