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The Babes in the Woods have their names back

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Since I write about history and cold cases, it’s not often I’ve get to break an actual news story. But thanks to a young woman named Ally who went searching for her Great Uncles—I can now tell you the names of the Babes in the Woods—the little boys whose skeletons were found in Stanley Park in 1953. Meet Derek and David D’Alton. 

This episode is based on a chapter in my book Cold Case BC: the stories behind the province’s most sensational murders and missing persons cases

Doreen, Eileen’s fraternal twin is shown with David and possibly Derek, ca.1943

When Ally spit into a tube in 2020, she had no idea that her DNA would help to solve one of Vancouver’s oldest and coldest murder mysteries.

Ally was flicking through the family album one day when she discovered that she had two great uncles who she had never met. The older boy had blonde hair and blue eyes, and the younger had darker features. When Ally asked her grandmother Diane who they were, she found out they were Diane’s younger brothers David and Derek.

Taken by social services:

Twenty-six year old Ally, says the story handed down in the family was that the two little boys were taken away by social services because their mother Eileen who was of Metis heritage, was too poor to look after them. Diane remained with her mother. “I remember my mother sharing stories with me about her mother’s  poverty and how they used to jump out of windows at places they were renting in Vancouver to avoid having to pay because they were just so poor,” says Ally.

But when Ally’s Mum Cindy pressed her mother Diane for more information, Diane would tell her: “we don’t talk about that” or “that’s in the past.”

Photos of Derek and David with the family. Diane holding David at right
Genetic Genealogy:

Cindy wanted to find out her mother’s genetic mix, so she took a swab from Diane, who was by then suffering from dementia, and sent it off to MyHeritage. Then Ally spit in a tube and sent it to 23AndMe—a genealogy database where people go to learn about their ancestry and locate lost relatives. She hoped to find her great uncles still alive, or at least trace their children or grandchildren.

Ally didn’t have the boy’s birth certificates or know the year they disappeared, but she knew that Diane was born in July 1937 and was the oldest and then came Derek and David. All three children attended Henry Hudson Elementary in Kitsilano.

Derek pictured top row, second from left at Henry Hudson Elementary in Kitsilano

Ally uploaded her DNA to Ancestry, MyHeritage and several other genealogy platforms. She hoped her DNA would lead her to her great  uncles, instead, what she found was devastating.

Identified:

Last May, the Vancouver Police Department partnered with the BC Coroners Service and a Massachusetts-based forensic research firm, to try and identify the Babes in the Woods. Most of their remains had been cremated in the 1990s and only a few fragments were left. These tiny, very old and fragile bone fragments were sent to Lakehead University’s Paleo-DNA lab in Thunder Bay, Ontario. The lab successfully extracted DNA from the bone fragment of the older boy and sent that to a lab in Alabama for DNA genome sequencing. His DNA kit was uploaded to GEDmatch, and a team of forensic genetic genealogists began searching for living relatives.

Derek on the right, with his cousin

Then, earlier this month, Cindy was approached by a VPD detective who told her that her uncles were the two skeletons that had been found in Stanley Park in 1953 and who were known for the next seven decades as the Babes in the Woods.

Their mother, Eileen Bousquet was born in Alberta, and as far as Cindy is aware all three of her children—Diane, Derek and David were born in Vancouver. Detectives told Cindy that they hadn’t found any records to indicate that the boys were taken into the custody of child protection services as she had been told, but they  would continue searching.

Diane with Derek.
Killed by mother?

Police have always believed that the boys were killed by their mother, who covered them up with her coat. But Cindy doesn’t believe that for a second. She says her grandmother was a lovely, gentle woman. “She was a huge animal lover, she babysat little kids. She was very sad because something had happened and I don’t know what it was because nobody wanted to talk about it.”

Eileen died in 1996 at age 78.

Ally says her grandmother Diane didn’t know who her father was or who the fathers were of her half-brothers. “That’s something I’ve been trying to trace with Ancestry, but so far no luck,” she says. “Even though it came to a devastating resolution, at least we know what happened.”

  • The VPD have released the boys names as Derek (born Feb 27, 1940) and David D’Alton (born June 24, 1941). The police believe they were murdered in 1947 so Derek would have been 7 and David 6 when they were killed.
  • All photos courtesy Ally
Show Notes

Sponsors: Forbidden Vancouver Walking Tours and Erin Hakin Jewellery

Music:   Andreas Schuld ‘Waiting for You’

Intro :   Mark Dunn

Buy me a coffee promo: McBride Communications and Media

Sources:

News report courtesy CTV Vancouver

Huge thanks to Miles Steininger, Darlene Ruckle, and The History Five for all their help with the research

Promo: Vancouver Police Museum and Archives

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© Eve Lazarus, 2022

 

 

 

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47 comments on “The Babes in the Woods have their names back”

Thank you for covering this story. Derek and David look so loved and happy. It’s difficult to understand how it all went awry.

excellent history,,,, sorry for the bad news of the children,,, but , now your family is aware of the story,,,,,, my gosh, there isn’t any words to describe your story,,,,, but, now you and the children are at rest,,,,,,

This is amazing news, Eve! At least the boys have names now, and their family knows what became of them. I don’t suppose their are any school records remaining from that time. I wonder if we will ever know any more of the story.

School records (Permanent Record Card) are kept for 55 years AFTER a student would NORMALLY have graduated… and Permanent Record Cards have been around since before that timeframe.

Congratulations on solving this terrible mystery…. Huge Condolences to the families involved. How horrendous that she had to choose this path…just so sad all the way around. RIP Little Ones…. Thank you to all who worked on this case…..I know I prayed they would be united again, as I’m sure many in Vancouver did…..

Wowzers ! That’s astounding ! I remember seing them at the VPD museum and thinking what a sad story.Hope they identify them one day.Took awnile but here’s that one day .

I remember when the skeletons were found and the clay mock ups of what they could have looked like. Thanks for sharing this story Kudos for the forensic team and the family members for helping to solve the mystery Condolences to all the remaining family so sad to have this happen. 🙏

Absolutely amazing that thanks to DNA research (which I absolutely love), this heartbreaking mystery was finally solved. I love the photos of the adorable little boys. Thanks for this post, although I’m so very sad for the whole family.

Vancouverites have long been saddened by this tragic story. This ending doesn’t make it any less sad or tragic. The boys deserve a respectful burial and a tombstone fitting for them. Their private lives exposed and their bones displayed at the PNE. Time they were honored with what most of us get at death. Dignity.

Detective Honeybourn, who was the cold case detective on the case in the 1990s, removed Derek and David’s remains from public display at the museum, cremated the majority of the remains, and buried the boys at sea in a ceremony with a police chaplain.

I am so happy the boys have their names back. An answer after so many years. Tragic this could have happened to them.

This is an amazing discovery. DNA is producing answers for a lot of people. All the best to the family now that they know, may they find some peace. And thank you Eve for the determined digging and detective work.
I think we know why the past generations kept secrets, but if we can look at the past to inform and not shame there is healing in that.

Had the names David and Derek D’Alton ever come up in investigations as possibilities before this new round of DNA work and discovery?

Eve, do we know what Eileen’s last name was at her death, or where she died? Eileen Bousquet’s name does not come up in the Royal BC Museum’s genealogical archives.

I believe her name at death was Eileen Benedictine McAlpine, DOB August 18 1917. She passed on June 11 1996, 78 years old, at Mission, B.C. in the hospital extended care unit. Her husband, who predeceased her, on death certificate is listed as Cameron McAlpine.

I read and greatly enjoyed your book about Vancouver cold cases and I’m glad you’ve had the chance to follow up with some closure on this one. While stories like this are dramatic and even sensational, it’s more important that each and every soul is given dignity and peace with the truth. Research and writing are also my passions, so I appreciate your hunt for the facts.

Now I wish the police would identify Muriel Lindsay’s killer using DNA analysis. It’s been 25 years. Eva, beautiful Muriel and I were best buds our last year of high school. It was Jarvis Collegiate…Jesse Ketchum was the elementary school where she did grade 8, maybe 7.

Very good Eve! There is finally some closure on this horrific story after so many years. Heard you on NW mid week, must be rewarding to spread the news after all this time.

What a discovery. I too remember when the Babes in the Woods were discovered and as a youngster simply could not comprehend that their mother or someone else murdered then buried the children in Stanley Park. Although I was aware that there were lots of “crazy” people in the news, the Babes in the Woods story would surface in my memory many times throughout the years so I’m elated by the discovery. Now if I could only learn why my uncle, Gerald Gordon, was murdered by the Vancouver Police while in custody.

Frank. Really? Who murdered them is so clear now. Poverty makes folks do things out of their norm. Hopefully this will get some living with guilt to come forward as this event proves you can not hide from DNA no matter how old.
And just great work Eve! Bravo for keeping it in the minds of Vancouverites.

In the 50’s my parents would drive us to Stanley Park after they got off work and we would sit in the car or have a picnic and watch the sunset. They showed us where the last Indigenous person to live in Stanley Park lived in his cabin. We used to peek inside the dilapidated bldg. I don’t remember them telling us about the Babes in the Woods but I know they did. I am 72 now and I have thought about those little children my whole life. I wondered if ever in my lifetime they would be identified. Such a tragedy that there were so few resources for single mothers in crisis in those days. How desperate she must have been….and to have to live with that guilt for the next 50 years. My thoughts go out the the family. What a shock to have discovered this family secret.

Thanks Eve for putting my mind to rest about those little ones.

Thanks, Eve, and thanks to all who’ve commented.
There is a remaining story—who killed Derek and David. You write Eve that police believe it was their mother, the boys being found covered by her coat. But is that the only evidence they have? It’s not enough.

– I remember my Mom talking about The Babes in the Woods growing up as kids in Vancouver in the 1950’s – 1960’s – Stanley Park was one of our favourite places to go on the weekends – the DNA discovery is amazing – what they can find out from basically nothing – never thought of it being used for the Babes in the Woods case – but it appears it is finally solved – end of another amazing very sad Vancouver mystery – Eve Lazarus is the best one to delve into this local history!

great history,,,, sorry for the awful news about the children,,, but now your family is aware of the narrative, my my, there aren’t any words to explain your store but now you and the children may rest

Thank you Eve for the story. I’m just wondering why you left out a key fact in one of your last paragraphs? The one starting with “Police have always believed that the boys were killed by their mother, who covered them up with her coat. But Cindy doesn’t believe that for a second…”

Granted you were not the one who interviewed Cindy, but I’m wondering if nobody has ever asked her if she doesn’t believe their mother killed them, then how can she explain why Eileen never reported them missing?

Why would you not add this important point in that paragraph? If she’s been asked that question, I would love to know her answer, and if she wasn’t for some reason, I still think it’s a valid point to raise disproving her theory.

You didn’t think so?

Actually, I was the one who interviewed Cindy, and I thought it was quite clear in the story that the family were told that the children had been taken by social services because Eileen was too poor to look after them. The police are still trying to verify this

Murderers don’t always have a reason, they just kill. Sometimes extreme grief will trigger someone to commit suicide. Others will do the unthinkable from deep depression from which they feel that it is better than having to try to live through it. This is such a sad story, however, at least the children are now complete and now have names and resting places. Such a sad, sad story…

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