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		By: Frederick Wong		</title>
		<link>https://evelazarus.com/the-shannon-estate-fourth-most-endangered-heritage-site/#comment-1594</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick Wong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2014 11:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[With the rush  to turn Vancouver and it&#039;s suburbs into the ugliest region with the most beautiful surroundings, the Vancouver city councils of the past 20 years are outdoing everybody.   Densification can be achieved gradually and with wise planning, without destroying our finest structures, but our Vancouver city representatives seem to have no understanding of such things.   Our politicians are ignorant, uncultured slobs who have no understanding of aesthetics, are totally beholden to the almighty buck and commit planning outrages like this, that challenge the worst practices one sees in places such as China where graft and corruption are the rule of the day.   People don&#039;t come to Vancouver to see the same ugliness that they left back home.  They come to Vancouver to see things done right.  To see a city that looks at it&#039;s beautiful surroundings and designs a city to reflect that.  Instead we get the same planning mistakes that have been made in so many American cities and unfortunately copied in so many countries overseas.  Vancouver should look to San Fransisco, a city with similar beautiful surroundings but with equally beautiful structures from the past.   How has San Francisco, (which undoubtedly feels the same development pressure that Vancouver has ) been able to keep it&#039;s beautiful old neighborhoods and when a modern structure goes up, it is a beautiful landmark structure like the Transamerica Pyramid?  When a developer talks about a &quot;landmark&quot; structure in Vancouver, we get a monstrosity like the Wall Tower or the Shangra La Hotel!   Do our developers and city councils lack the sophistication that they do in San Francisco?  Or is it we lack the planning laws with teeth to regulate what stuctures look like?  The few landmark buildings that we do have are all from the past, such as the Fairmont Hotel Vancouver and Marine Building.  What did our inept planning department and councils allow to go around the Marine Building, they allowed modern monstrosities to be built around it so that one can barely see the Marine Building any more unless one is standing practically next to it!  You can no longer see it from the harbour.   The Fairmont Hotel Vancouver is next to be subsumed into the shadows of 600 foot glass and steel uglies.   Our descendents will truly curse us!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the rush  to turn Vancouver and it&#8217;s suburbs into the ugliest region with the most beautiful surroundings, the Vancouver city councils of the past 20 years are outdoing everybody.   Densification can be achieved gradually and with wise planning, without destroying our finest structures, but our Vancouver city representatives seem to have no understanding of such things.   Our politicians are ignorant, uncultured slobs who have no understanding of aesthetics, are totally beholden to the almighty buck and commit planning outrages like this, that challenge the worst practices one sees in places such as China where graft and corruption are the rule of the day.   People don&#8217;t come to Vancouver to see the same ugliness that they left back home.  They come to Vancouver to see things done right.  To see a city that looks at it&#8217;s beautiful surroundings and designs a city to reflect that.  Instead we get the same planning mistakes that have been made in so many American cities and unfortunately copied in so many countries overseas.  Vancouver should look to San Fransisco, a city with similar beautiful surroundings but with equally beautiful structures from the past.   How has San Francisco, (which undoubtedly feels the same development pressure that Vancouver has ) been able to keep it&#8217;s beautiful old neighborhoods and when a modern structure goes up, it is a beautiful landmark structure like the Transamerica Pyramid?  When a developer talks about a &#8220;landmark&#8221; structure in Vancouver, we get a monstrosity like the Wall Tower or the Shangra La Hotel!   Do our developers and city councils lack the sophistication that they do in San Francisco?  Or is it we lack the planning laws with teeth to regulate what stuctures look like?  The few landmark buildings that we do have are all from the past, such as the Fairmont Hotel Vancouver and Marine Building.  What did our inept planning department and councils allow to go around the Marine Building, they allowed modern monstrosities to be built around it so that one can barely see the Marine Building any more unless one is standing practically next to it!  You can no longer see it from the harbour.   The Fairmont Hotel Vancouver is next to be subsumed into the shadows of 600 foot glass and steel uglies.   Our descendents will truly curse us!</p>
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		By: J Butler		</title>
		<link>https://evelazarus.com/the-shannon-estate-fourth-most-endangered-heritage-site/#comment-1589</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J Butler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2014 01:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I remember how beautiful the mansion and grounds (the whole property) were when the Taylors lived there.  This densification philosophy is all wrong.  Did anyone think this through?  It is such a shame to see what is happening to so many old residential (heritage) properties.  The city is destroying these well designed neighbourhoods with their beautiful homes backyards, lane-ways, boulevards, grass, shrubs, garden beds, and trees.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember how beautiful the mansion and grounds (the whole property) were when the Taylors lived there.  This densification philosophy is all wrong.  Did anyone think this through?  It is such a shame to see what is happening to so many old residential (heritage) properties.  The city is destroying these well designed neighbourhoods with their beautiful homes backyards, lane-ways, boulevards, grass, shrubs, garden beds, and trees.</p>
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		By: Barb Irvine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barb Irvine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2013 18:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Your right this is ugly , what a shame to destroy this property the Rogers house is quite amazing, which will be totally hidden again
this structure does not fit in with this neighbourhood. Not surprised what is happening in Vancouver with destroying the Cambie neighbourhood as well. This council is impossible. The almight buck rules apparently.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your right this is ugly , what a shame to destroy this property the Rogers house is quite amazing, which will be totally hidden again<br />
this structure does not fit in with this neighbourhood. Not surprised what is happening in Vancouver with destroying the Cambie neighbourhood as well. This council is impossible. The almight buck rules apparently.</p>
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		By: Ed Johnson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 13:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A nearby development at Granville and 52nd Ave, known as Granville Mews, has shown a clear sensitivity and respect to the South Granville Neighbourhood. The designer understood the tradition and unique architectural style of the area. 

The Shannon Mews (Granville and 57th Ave) developer and the architectural firm have shown a total disrespect to the neighbourhood in their aim to maximize profit through the destruction of the present South Granville neighbourhood. The present design is absolutely the cheapest and ugliest design ever.  The City of Vancouver planners stated that they want densification. Why favour one developer over everyone else. They could easily achieve their objective by allowing all the single home owners in the area to be given the same 1.9FSR as requested by this developer and allow for a 20 metres height allowance.  It is a total surprise that the City of Vancouver planners are providing encouragement to this monstrosity. Granville Street is the gateway to Downtown Vancouver. Having this horror development approved would definitely destroy the Vancouver image that so many generations have carefully groomed and cultivated. May be this planning department is now composed of egoists. May be the Wall Financial Group is so powerful that they actually feel that they are above the individual Vancouverites. The Vancouver planning department has done everything to favour the developer. From giving minimal public hearing notice period to staging public hearing locations far from the South Granville affected neighbourhood. We have all heard about the past abusive property developments that have occurred in China. Even the Chinese government now understand that they have to be more respectful of their citizens. We hope that the Mayor of Vancouver and the Councillors will bring discipline back to the planning department. Actually, the past NPA majority government had been quite sensitive to the long term integrity of a neighbourhood. They understood the need for change, but it is a carefully managed organic change like the Granville Mews development. I hope that the present Mayor and Council would have the wisdom to manage this precious jewel called the City of Vancouver, and to control the potential egoists in the system.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nearby development at Granville and 52nd Ave, known as Granville Mews, has shown a clear sensitivity and respect to the South Granville Neighbourhood. The designer understood the tradition and unique architectural style of the area. </p>
<p>The Shannon Mews (Granville and 57th Ave) developer and the architectural firm have shown a total disrespect to the neighbourhood in their aim to maximize profit through the destruction of the present South Granville neighbourhood. The present design is absolutely the cheapest and ugliest design ever.  The City of Vancouver planners stated that they want densification. Why favour one developer over everyone else. They could easily achieve their objective by allowing all the single home owners in the area to be given the same 1.9FSR as requested by this developer and allow for a 20 metres height allowance.  It is a total surprise that the City of Vancouver planners are providing encouragement to this monstrosity. Granville Street is the gateway to Downtown Vancouver. Having this horror development approved would definitely destroy the Vancouver image that so many generations have carefully groomed and cultivated. May be this planning department is now composed of egoists. May be the Wall Financial Group is so powerful that they actually feel that they are above the individual Vancouverites. The Vancouver planning department has done everything to favour the developer. From giving minimal public hearing notice period to staging public hearing locations far from the South Granville affected neighbourhood. We have all heard about the past abusive property developments that have occurred in China. Even the Chinese government now understand that they have to be more respectful of their citizens. We hope that the Mayor of Vancouver and the Councillors will bring discipline back to the planning department. Actually, the past NPA majority government had been quite sensitive to the long term integrity of a neighbourhood. They understood the need for change, but it is a carefully managed organic change like the Granville Mews development. I hope that the present Mayor and Council would have the wisdom to manage this precious jewel called the City of Vancouver, and to control the potential egoists in the system.</p>
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		By: albert chin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[albert chin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 04:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello;
As a young student of architecture, we visited the estate a few years before
the Massey Erickson work.
It was impressive in the early 70&#039;s &#038; is still impressive now despite it&#039;s
current owner&#039;s pre-meditated neglect.
The mansion was meant to be the dominant structure on the estate, &#038; the
MasseyErickson work respects this architectural point completely.
I&#039;m sure the Massey Erickson buildings can be elaborated upon further to
house many more people without having to build glass &#038; steel structures to
tower over the mansion &#038; the surrounding neighbours.
The mansion is a jewel in the crown of Vancouver&#039;s Heritage, the glass &#038;
steel towers proposed by Wall Financial Corp. dwarfs the Mansion, destroys
the estate feel of the property, &#038; it will be a monument to corporate greed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello;<br />
As a young student of architecture, we visited the estate a few years before<br />
the Massey Erickson work.<br />
It was impressive in the early 70&#8217;s &amp; is still impressive now despite it&#8217;s<br />
current owner&#8217;s pre-meditated neglect.<br />
The mansion was meant to be the dominant structure on the estate, &amp; the<br />
MasseyErickson work respects this architectural point completely.<br />
I&#8217;m sure the Massey Erickson buildings can be elaborated upon further to<br />
house many more people without having to build glass &amp; steel structures to<br />
tower over the mansion &amp; the surrounding neighbours.<br />
The mansion is a jewel in the crown of Vancouver&#8217;s Heritage, the glass &amp;<br />
steel towers proposed by Wall Financial Corp. dwarfs the Mansion, destroys<br />
the estate feel of the property, &amp; it will be a monument to corporate greed.</p>
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